Wednesday, January 11, 2012

"I am not a slave and dont make me a slave" Annan Pasupathi Pandiayan: A dedication

This post would try to bring most of news on Dalit revolutionary leader Pasupathi

Pandian. Since only bits and pieces are available on him, I tried to gather the information from the internet and talking to Arunthathiyars and making a post. Many of the news media say he is a reputed Dalit leader, however, few Dalit leader reject that claim and say he is just a rowdy. Henceforth it is a small attempt from my side to throw some light on Mr. Pasupathi Pandian’s life from an Arunthathiyar perspective.
Every individual has a history which is influenced mostly by the society surrounding him/her. Therefore it is very important to construct or look a person’s history where he lived, saw, experienced.
This article will focus on southern districts of Tamil Nadu. In southern Districts there are various dominant community, Nadar, Naidu, Thevar, Nayakkars, etc. Nadars are predominant in the southern districts of Tuticorin, Kaniyakumari, Tirunelveli and Virudhunagar districts.
However, the history of the Nadar community in short they were backward community. Few business man within the community, and it is during the Kamarajar rule that the Nadars gained economically more powerful. Special schools for Nadars, banks were started. In due course they went to the height in the economic power.
It is also true that Kamarajar was great in many aspects, those could be googled. The very important contribution or his love for his community can be seen while he was Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu the state reorganization was formed, he did not oppose for merging Iddukki district with Kerala because he was happy with Kanniyakumari merging with Tamil Nadu. To understand this we should look little closer into the difference between two districts. Iddukki had the indigenous inhabitants belonged to the tribes - Muthuvans, Hill Pulayas, Mannans, Uralys, Malai Arayans, Ulladans, Palliyans, Malavedans and Mala Pandarams – all of whom were Tamils. In Kanyakumari there were Nadars.
Therefore the majority of the Tamil speaking population in Idukki region was given to Kerala, and majority of Malayalam speaking population, Kanyakumari was taken to Tamil Nadu because of few Nadar community. The Chief Minister Mr. Kamaraj had a role in it.
Kamaraj's was a Chief Minister between 1954 - 1963: At present the Nadars constitutes 12 per cent of the State’s population. Beyond the fireworks industry at Sivakasi, they has the influential Tamil media house - Thanthi - in its fold. The company is run by Sivanthi Adityan, whose brother Ramachandra Adityan floated Malai Murasu. There is also Dinakaran, founded by the late K P Kandaswamy, who was known for switching allegiance between AIADMK-founder MG Ramachandran and Karunanidhi.

The success of Nadars in business played a pivotal role in the rise of the community. Nadar grocery stores can be found today in almost every corner of Tamil Nadu. The success is mainly due to their frugality and determination, and many have risen from poverty. It is difficult to determine the wealth of a Nadar merchant for a very wealthy Nadar may sit simply in his tiny shop.

With growing supermecy over their community, their egos, pride grew to an height that made them to discriminate Dalits in that region, majority of the dalit population are Pallars. The Pallars have few lands, and also some of them work in abroad. Hence, the pallars in large do not depend on any upper caste for their daily food. They struggle for equality began. The Nadars would harass/rape dalit women, and kill dalits who oppose their domination. It was a rowdey rajayam.
Atrocities on Dalits in those region:
frontline on Graveyard,
Frontline: about a novel anyhow
Eppadium (Anyhow) is his most recent work. The novel deals with the unpleasant situation prevailing in Vembar, a coastal village in Tuticorin district, where Christian populations belonging to Nadar, Paravar and Dalit castes run their own schools and administer separate parishes. Without hypocrisy, the author takes the bull by the horns. He narrates the insults heaped on Dalit Christians in the village through the denial of any role in the parish administration.He recalled the attacks on Dalits at Nalumoolaikinaru and Kodiyankulam in Tuticorin district,…
The police rampage on the all-Dalit village of Kodiyankulam on August 31, 1995 (Frontline, October 20, 1995) when caste-related violence was rocking the southern districts in the mid-1990s was the worst. The word Kodiyankulam, has since then virtually become a synonym for state terrorism, particularly against Dalits, in this part of the country.
In Tamil Nadu’s southern districts, prisoners are segregated on the basis of castes
Caste In Prison Stone

in the political biography of Tamil Nadu, conflict between Dalits and other backward castes (OBCs) is a chapter that is still being written. Not only is untouchability still widespread across the state’s southern districts like Ramanathapuram, Thoothukkudi, Thirunelveli, Madurai and Dharmapuri, there have been frequent clashes since the early 1990s between Dalits and Thevars, an OBC community with significant presence in the region.
Maran says he was beaten up for no reason by members of the jail staff who were Thevars. The food served in his Dalit block was scarcely edible and hardly enough to quell his hunger. His access to books and newspapers was restricted. His visiting time for friends and relatives who came calling was curtailed. He had to work, but was not paid. And he was deprived of medical attention. “Prison life does not offer anything to reduce the sense of [inflicted] violence,” he says, “It only flares it up.”
There are 1,600 prisoners in Palayamkottai Central Jail, and the segregation in this facility is very efficient. “Thevar, Nadar and Dalit prisoners are put in different blocks,” says Selvaraj, a constable who has been working there for a decade. “In this jail, [caste segregation] is inevitable. How can we mix up people from different castes? It is impossible. We cannot manage the violence [that will occur] if we do so.”
What happens in jail, however, only mirrors what happens outside during caste conflicts, according to Rajiv Rufus, a lawyer practising at the Madurai bench. “This is a strategy used by the government whenever caste violence erupts in these parts of Tamil Nadu,” he alleges, “Thevar cops are deployed in localities where Dalits live in, and vice-versa. This only escalates the violence.”
This lies the background where Pasupathi Pandian grew up. In 1980s, 1990s, there use to be only killings with sickles and police will not interfere. Tuticorin has a shipping harbor, and a very important place.
Times of India: writes C Pasupathi Pandian gained notoriety even as a 11th standard school-going boy when a case of murder was registered against him in Tuticorin.
A native of Alangara Thattu village in Tuticorin, Pandian subsequently quit his studies. Since then, the path he travelled was marred by violent incidents where he dabbled between the roles of a person fighting against dalit atrocities.
The Nadars and the Upper caste in Tuitcorin got sacred of him. Nadars as I said before had political, economical everything. But Pasupathi Pandian had a fire of courage to stop anyone who discriminates dalits. It is also to be noted there were Naxal movements in tamilnadu. The culture of using country bomb, knife, guns were circulated for all community. The same weapon used by the Upper caste Nadar, was used against them. Few incidents I write. Not only upper caste in that region were scared of Pasupathi Pandian, even in most of the southern districts. The upper caste were scared because Pasupathi Pandian will interfere.

An Arunthathiyar from Nellai says:
In 1980’s Mr. Pasupathi Pandian came to TN colony in Tirunelveli, met Arunthathiyar and presented 50 knifes and told, leave your traditional occupation Scavenging and attack anyone who discriminates or harasses you and it is my responsibility to take care of you.
An Arunthathiyar Leader based in Maduari says, Naagai Thiruvaluvan:
In 1990’s in Paramagudi, an Arunthathiyar girl was beaten by pallars, there was a tensed situation between arunthathiyars and Pallars. Pasupathi Pandian is also from a Pallar community, he went to the spot and abused the Pallars and told to treat arunthathiyars equally.
Another Arunthathiyar Leader says:
While Arunthathiyars were fighting for inner-reservation which was not supported by any single non-arunthathiyar leaders. But Pasupathi Pandian as an exception who had power came to the stage and spoke about the importance of Inner –reservation for arunthathiyars.
Another Arunthathiyar leader, Dilipen:
There are sub-caste politics in Tamil Nadu as any other Indian state has. But in Tamil Nadu Pasupathi Pandian was considering all sub-caste as dalits and spoke in one voice. Not a single leader from Pallars will ever do the same even in future.

He had at least eight murder cases pending against him, besides several other cases of attempted murder, assault, possession of weapons. Among the murder cases, the most notable is the murder of rival Venkatesa Pannaiyar's grandfather in the early 1990s. The Venketesha Panniyar(Interestingly, Pannyar (who is better known as a local don) is reported to have helped AIADMK win the crucial Sattankulam by-elections, which came close on the heels of Jayalalithaa’s Anti-Conversion Bill. Sattankulam has a sizable Christian Nadar population. It is believed that Pannyar, subsequently, became a thorn for the party as he got embroiled in various scams and had to be "removed".)

group, which is a Nadar community became a strong rival for the Pasupathi Pandian. Actually in 1990s there were fights between the Pullaveli village people and the Mulakarai Pannaiyar Sivasubramaiya Nadaar. The village was fighting for water. In this fight Pasupathi Pandian was supporting the village people. The fight went to an extent to to murder the son of Sivasubramaniya Nadaar in 24-1-93. Sivasubramaniya Nadaar’s son was Asupathi Pannaiyar. Asupathi Pannaiyar was Venketasa panaiyar’s fathers younger brother. As a revenge in 21-4-1993 there was an attempt to kill Pasupathi Pandian. In this attempt Pasupathi Pandian escaped by his friend Ponn Esaki was murdered. On 8-7-93 Pasupathi Pandian group kills Sivasubramania Naadar. Since then there were several attempts to kill Pasupathi Pandian by the Nadaar groups. Venkatesh Pannaiyar was shot dead in a police encounter in Chennai on September 26, 2003. However Venkatesh Panniayar’s gang was growing.
1n 2000 Tamil Nadu saw a range of Dalit movements. Particularly Dr. Krishnasamy, Mr. Thirumavalavan, were mobilizing dalits across Tamil Nadu. So many atrocities and killing happened even happens now in Southern districts. The Pallars, Arunthathiyars, Pariyars in Southern Districts were getting mobilized in a democratic platform. It is to remember that the background of their assertion has a greater link to Mr. Pasupathi Pandian’s courageous fight against the dominant community. The newly formed democratic platform was gaining importance, and Pasupathi Pandian started reducing his violent struggle against the dominant community. But the Panniayar group mobilized and regrouping.
Venkatesh Pannaiyar was shot dead in a police encounter in Chennai on September 26, 2003, a core group, including Dhanasingam, fled to Mumbai and remained under ground.
Dhanasingam, a henchman of the group, was involved in several offences. In 1992-93, he was lodged in the Tihar jail, Delhi, where he developed links with criminals. In recent years, he emerged a successful arms supplier to criminals.
Police sources said P. Dhanasingam alias Seenivasan of Eral, was a top gunrunner and had links with clandestine weapon dealers. During preliminary interrogation, he confessed to having purchased twenty 9-mm (semi-automatic self-loading) pistols, two 7.62-mm pistols and one stengun from Hemanth Singh of Jamalpur in Bihar late last year. (The Chennai police arrested Hemanth Singh in Bihar soon after the death of Venkatesh Pannaiyar last year).
Therefore it is very important to understand the difference between the Pannaiyar(nadir) communities using violence and Pasupathi Pandian using violence. Pasupathi Pandian used violence began as a retaliation against the Nadar Pannaiyars for equality. Panniyaar’s violence was for their domination, with economic, political power they grew with arm dealers etc. But Pasupathi pandian, left violence after the democratic set up fight for Dalits began. Therefore the fight of Pasupathi Pandian is very different compared to Pannaiyar. Even the recent example if we have to look dalit movement in Tamil Nadu. It is only sourthern dalits who are more assertive. Even the Arunthathiyar, a scavenging/leather working community is more assertive in Tuticorine than anyother place in Tamil Nadu. This credit goes to Pasupathi Pandian. The sadest part is even dalit movement do not see a relation of Pasupathi pandian struggle with the Naxal movement. Only thing Pasupathi Pandian did not have a red color flag, or some fluent speaking English person to write what he was doing, therefore even many dalits get diverted in judging him. And also the educated Dalits kept away from him and was comfortable with the Thirumavalavan, Krishnasamy party politics. I have to say that once the Dalits got asserted they kept away from Pasupathi Pandian. Which was a draw back for him, because there were no selfish Dalits, who speak rubbish on stage and do the exact opposite behind the screen. Pasupathi Pandian was rational, and never cared about him.
As the number of his rivals rose, the number of his close associates were eliminated in bloody fights one after the other. Peer Mohamed, Karnan and Damodaran were brutally murdered in Tuticorin though Pandian gave death a miss every time.
His first political stint began with joining the Pattali Makkal Katchi (PMK). He remained with the party only for a short period and quit PMK to start Devendran Kula Ilaignar Peravai, a dalit youth forum. It was around that time that, he married Jacintha, an advocate from Dindigul who remained a source of support for her husband till she was brutally murdered in 2006.
On April 7, a gang intercepted the car in which she and her husband were travelling at Eppothumvenran village in Tuticorin. A gang of about 20 persons got down from it and hurled bombs at Pandian's car and when they did not explode properly, the gang shot dead Jacintha, who was trapped in the car. Pandian however escaped unhurt and managed to flee the spot in another car, in which his associates were following.
In fact, Pandian had managed to have a narrow escape four times. Once, he was hacked indiscriminately by his rivals at a market in Tuticorin who assumed that he was dead and left the spot. In another incident at Vallanadu in Tirunelveli, he managed to escape a gun-firing.
As the group rivalry lead to a series of murders, the then Tuticorin SP Jangid had warned Pandian to leave Tuticorin. After residing briefly in Tirunelveli, he moved away to Dindigul where he was staying in various places to avoid his enemies.
As the threat to his life rose, he maintained a low profile and was not even active among his community circle. Of late, he was making demands to remove 'pallars' from the list of scheduled caste and instead include them in most backward class. He was also opposing the terming of pallars, as adi dravidars.
In 21st century if there was a Dalit leader who worked selflessly for all the Dalit community, loseing everything, his family, friends, etc. It is only Pasupathi Pandian.

Political background:
After AIADMK came to power, in Paramagudi Pallars who were assertive were killed by the Thevar in power. It is to be noted that AIADMK, whenever comes to power the Thevars in Southern district commit too many atrocities on dalits. Paramagudi killing was clear for majority of the Dalits that it is the AIADMK who killed Dalits in pamagudi. This would surely backfire the vote bank politics of AIADMK in future. Also AIADMK cannot rely on Pallars/or other dalit community in election.
Therefore to increase the AIADMK vote bank it is only through making sure other community votes for AIADMK. The Nadars who constitute 12% of the vote bank politics supports DMK. The reason, AIADMK killed Venketasa pannaiyar in 2003. Immediately after his killing DMK offered a seat to Panniyar’s wife and she won the election. Since Dalits are not going to vote for AIADMK, it is important for AIADMK to look for other community for votes, and it is only the Nadar’s can help. To woo them, AIADMK could have made an agreement to make sure Pasupathi Pandian, a strong rival to NAdar community is eliminated. Recently the government killed dalits in Paramagudi and had a national attention, therefore the state government cannot take another risk of making police kill Pasupathi Pandian. It is possible the state would have said anyone can kill Pasupathi Pandian, and the state will not interfere.
The recent for such a doubt, since it is a planned attack, the special branch must had news of it. And also he was not dead on spot, on the way to hospital he died, and no one know what he spoke.

To read more about Nadar communities hegemony in those region please read the following:
A Nadar writes in yahoo: But at the ugly end, the politicians like J.Jayalalithaa, M.Karunanidhi, and the whole of Murosoli marans family does not like the Nadar caste. The Scheduled Caste (SC) people are trying to catch up with nadars, and the higher caste people like brahmins want to dump nadars, as they consider nadars as a threat to their development. Situation is such so, the SC people are trying a crooked, and wicked procedure to crush the Nadars. The ugly route they took was so unethical to the tamil culture. The SC people train their sons to create a friendly relationship with innocent nadar girls, and finally seduce them for sex. This way they try to steal half of the wealth of Nadars.

In Tamilnadu, We have a culture, If some girl had sex with a boy before marriage, then the girl has to marry that boy. Its so unethical. So the nadar parents have no other way than to accept the boy. Atlast a nadar boy goes without a girl for marriage.

For this, the SC people is strongly supported by Goondas (anti-social elements). One of the Goonda name is C. Pasupathy pandian. Wherever nadar parents having a fully grown daughter. He kidnaps and makes feast of that girl to the SC boys. He has committed muders through this.

Pasupathy pandian resides in Dindugal. He is a notorious gangster. He conducts katta-panchayat in the southern parts of tamilnadu. The government, which has bad politicians support him for the money that has been given to them as bribe. They never care for nadars. Who is going to help nadars? Who is going to kill pasupathy pandian? the government or the people.
In viral blogspot another Nadar writes
Eeswara Pandian NADAR said...
devendragula vellar community is one of the underfoot caste in tirunelveli and toothukudi areas. If nadars feel bored, they'll go to devendran areas and beat them. In thoothukudi the men who belongs to devendran community wore saree only untill 1980.. If they do any mistakes,they have to lick the nattamai's (those belongs to nadar community) feet... But pasupathi pandian tried to rectify them. So
the living GOD of NADAR community ROCKET RAJA killed pasupathi's wife. Unfortunately pasupathi pandian(the real kozhai) ran away... Aarilum saavu Noorilum saavu NADARai ethirthavan antre saavu

Megam karutha mazhai
NADARai ethirtha

Evaraium adacki aalum veerarinam.....
Ani thirandu vandhalum Asaratha NADARinam....
Vaazhga Sathriya NADAR Gulam....
Valarga NADAR gula Ottrumai....
In English below
(we are courageous to subjugate anyone
Nadar community will not shake even if many people come
long live Nadar community
glorious to the Nadar communities for being one)

Anonymous said...
lei eddie.pallan payala.un jathi peyara paru pallan.
thoo!.neenga ellam jamin.vekkama illa.neenga ellam dalit makkal la.
keel jathi punda makka.
unga mella evanum kaya vaika mattan.karanam un mella kaya vacha nadar kulathukee kevalam.
nee entha thairiyathula la comment panra.pallan punda movana.
ithuku munnadi comment devar aa pathi pannunathum naan thaan.en jathi pera paru la NADAR.
pera sollum pothey oru thoranai.
by barani NADAR
English translation of the above:
ei, Pallan boy, look your communities name, it is pallan
spitting, don’t you have shame to call yourself as Jamin (who were not considered as untouchables), you all are dalits
untouchable bastards
no body will even touch you. Reason you are an untouchable, if Nadar community touches you, it is shame to Nadar community
what courage you have to comment, pallan bastard
before this I was the one who commented on Devars. Look at my caste name NADAR
When I utter Nadar, see my pride)

Anonymous said...
nadarinam pesama ponal intha keel jathi karan ellam athigama pesuran.
(if Nadars don’t speak, these untouchables will speaks more)

by SN.barani Nadar.
The comment goes on and on……
The above comment would show how much caste tension prevails in southern districts. especially between the Devendars and Nadars, and also throws light on how the dominant community considers its hegemony.

some more news about Annan Pasupathi Pandiyan:

The Hindu

Pasupathi Pandiayan's wife killed

Annan Pasupathi pandian speech


prasanna said...


Anonymous said...

nadar is well known as Pannaieri, the community of this are live out of the village and they forefathers know how they lived they are very below in caste.

Anonymous said...

i am being a backward class, we wont offer them to enter our home and we dont touch them, well every nadar well known about their caste from where they came. they also comes below SC community, they have well developed by only Kamamrajar, they entered in all sector like eductions, business, banking, rowdysm, and also in 50-60 their community womens offer sex for their basic needs, and their women has to entertain sex for the few days to get the assets of many upperclass. they are the one who changed the religious as their womens made as a british slaves for sex and they have been changed religious as days go...

vignesh nadar said...

Nadars are hard working people who have achieved their preeminent economic status through sheer work only. we, Nadars, are peace loving people but are second to none to protect the dignity of the community if challenged by any outsiders

தேவன் said...

Mr. Kadhinilavan has given a wide coverage to late Mr. Pasupathi Pandian. It is time to all communities to introspect themselves and leap forward. It is evident un- touchability is existing in every nook and corner of Tamil Nadu. And no authority is willing to eradicate or decrease it.

So the initiative has to be take from the very communities. Educated people from each community have come together and take all necessary steps wipe out the misunderstanding between the castes.

Then only the Tamil community can face the external discrimination or otherwise the Tamil people will destroyed from earth.

Kumarpushp said...

My hat off to Pandian who had give two finger to hindus and their Hindu led government.

Pandiyakula Kshatriya Nadan said...

This half cooked guy is creating community unrest by twisting a family feud into an untouchable holy war. There are lot of good examples Nadar politicians has done to Devendrakula vellalar community which he purposefully ignores. Kamarajar helped enlist them in SC list and because of this Devendrakula vellalar has high number of IAS and Academics. Kamarajar lost the friendship and support of Muthuramalinga Thevar and getting the ire of Thevars for his action taken during Emanuel Murder. Nadar too were outcastes few centuries back and grew up to head BJP not because of paletting against caste hindus. OBAMA too didnot call himself a Negro and paletted against white people to become US president. when you guys are going to learn? How long are you going to assert your untouchablility and support some Scoundrel who fought with failure models.

Anonymous said...

very happy to know mr pasupathy pandian was killed because he mis guided dalits and created partition.dalit leader like thirumavalavan are the real heroes .dalits should forget the past and move towards improving the economy and education of the next generation and have feeling as tamilians rather than dalits.
tamil kumar

Anonymous said...

It is unfortunate that Mr.Pasupathy Pandian is no more. I pray for her soul to rest in peace. Friends, Nadar community once recognized as below as SC community, fought against caste attrocities. The Uravinmurais created as early as 1799 helped them to build a strong mercantile class, and Mahamai Sangam started with Viruthuketty (Now Virudhunagar)as a starter spread whole of Travancore to the then Madras presidency. The first Kshatriya Nadar Vidhyasala was founded in 1885 spreaded its wings in almost all towns in the districts of Madurai, Theni, Ramanathapuram, Virudhunagar, Thoothukkudi, Tirunelveli, Kanniyakumari, Thiruvananthapuram and Kollam. So it is fallacy to say that Nadars gained supremacy only after K.Kamaraj. A certain section of Nadars still recognize Kamaraj as Nadar Traitor, and so was defeated in Virudhunagar where Nadars are in majority. Only fragmented Nadar illiterate youths are boasting of their caste, and me not!!!

Anonymous said...

It is unfortunate that Mr.Pasupathy Pandian is no more. I pray for her soul to rest in peace. Friends, Nadar community once recognized as below as SC community, fought against caste attrocities. To add a few more, Nadars were not allowed to enter Hindu Temples in the above listed districts, Nadars baptized christianity towns to towns, those not willing baptized built huge temples in commercial and industrial towns. The temples in Kamuthi, Valayapookkulam, Virudhunagar, Sattur, Sivakasi, Aruppukkottai, Theni, Thirumangalam, Neyyatinkara, Kattakad are a few examples. The Uravinmurais created as early as 1799 helped them to build a strong mercantile class, and Mahamai Sangam started with Viruthuketty (Now Virudhunagar)as a starter spread whole of Travancore to the then Madras presidency. The first Kshatriya Nadar Vidhyasala was founded in 1885 spreaded its wings in almost all towns in the districts of Madurai, Theni, Ramanathapuram, Virudhunagar, Thoothukkudi, Tirunelveli, Kanniyakumari, Thiruvananthapuram and Kollam. So it is fallacy to say that Nadars gained supremacy only after K.Kamaraj. A certain section of Nadars still recognize Kamaraj as Nadar Traitor, and so was defeated in Virudhunagar where Nadars are in majority. Only fragmented Nadar illiterate youths are boasting of their caste, and me not!!!
Let us not fight with each other. We all Tamils racially. Thank You!!!

manoj devendaran said...

niga nadar naga matum sc a sir ungaluku unga thalivar parithu angaluku anga thalivar perithu nam anaivarum sathial vetrumai anal thamilar please say wrong command #

Anonymous said...

Manoj Devendran you mistook my post. Nadars/Thevars/Devendrars/Vanniyars/Mutharaiyars/Kongu Vellalas/ Nagarathars/ Ayiravaishyars/Mudaliars/ Pillaimars/ Parayars/Konars/Panars/Baradhars/Udayars/Parkavars/Meenavars whatever they differences they may have, all are tamil community. I being a Nadar wish all Tamil communities should unite and fight against attrocities against Tamil communities. We Tamils, all are one!!! தமிழ் இனம் வாழ நாம் அனைவரும் ஒன்றிணைய வேண்டிய நேரம். தாங்கள் என்னுடைய பதிவினை தவறாக எடுத்துக்கொள்ளவேண்டாம். வாழ்க நம் தமிழ் இனம். சாதிகளை மறப்போம் வரலாறு படைப்போம்.

Anonymous said...

Nice cinema script of making an anti-social as an saviour of Dalit community. His profession is extortion of money and property which started in Tuticorin; and his gang used murder as weapon to make people of afraid of him and give into his demands. Dalit name is just mis-used by him for his political ambition and to save him from a big list of enemies.

Lets stop supporting these anti-socials from Dalit or any community. These people uses their community and create more anti-socials to protect them, instead of their individual community they belong

Anonymous said...

One should ask why Brahmins never eat karupatti..Brahmins atleast allowed Pallars to enter their backyard but never allowed Nadars to enter...NAdars were treated worse than Pallars..Pallars are Mallars actually have been proved beyond doubt... Mallars have a history of farming and fighting war when needed...since Mallars were farming community they owned large tracts of land till Naickers came ..why is that first preference is given to Mallars during festivity at Madurai Meenatchi Amman koil and Tirunelveli Nellai appar koil and many other temples ..
the land over which Nellai Appar Koil has been built was donated by my forefather, Somasi Kudumban ..Mallars have rich history compared to Nadars..Nadars you have history you should be ashamed to call yourselves Kshatriya lets us look at Nadars' history...the CM from their caste allowed his community to print fake notes at printing presses in Sivakasai ....and do you how their leader who owns a newspaper (now he is dead) became so rich ..this leader married widowed daughter of a rich Malaysian ...

Wilson said...

daiiiiiiii nadars don't u ppl have shame to call your caste name as nadar.......... do u knw once upon a time ur caste was one of the lowest caste because of kamarajar only u ppl r uplifted..... in olden days 1 proverb was there "saklliyana thota than tihtu anna channar (nadar) pathale tithu........ means if saklliayn touches onlty its untouchable but if nadars sees also its a untouchable.....

Raja Naadar said...

Raja Naadar

The fight and discrimination between Nadars and SC are an absolute stupidity. I don’t like the term SC to call the SUPPRESSED poor HARIJANs (men and women of GOD as Gandhi called) for centuries.

Tamil scholars are very proud to say Tamil is one of the oldest languages on the planet that has a rich literature than any other language in the entire world. Shame on you Tamils that includes Nadars. You don’t have the civilized culture that has long living history, but has not evolved to the level of equality to all Tamils in Tamil Nadu and Tamil Eelam. Tamils go to hell until you will reach the heights of a civilized society that treats all people equally regardless of religion, caste and any other form of identity.

The Eelam Tamils also discriminate HARIJANs despite their struggle against barbaric Singhalese discriminations.

In English expression, to frame a person, who is fully neglected and cornered by any society, the term PARIYA is being used. This is an absolutely unacceptable usage. The people all over the world using this term have no idea of the origin of this FILTY term. The majority people of Tamil society really don’t know about this wrong usage. The well-educated people in Tamil society either don’t know this or negligent.

I can write many books of this discrimination, so let me express my thoughts in brief.

HARIJANs, hit back hard when you are attacked in any form. If any OBCs and/or FCs kill one HARIJAN, kill 10 persons other side. I don’t want to promote violence, but no body in India (and South Asia) will come forward to provide justice to you, unless make them understand the pain of retaliation from you that would hurt them badly. You take your justice by any means. Until you stand for your rights and equality, you will not get positive reactions from other side. Keep in mind, the equality will not happen immediately. It will take long time. In the mean time, you will loose many lives, properties etc. Be prepared in your mind and heart to face such struggle for long time. Be wise and careful not to harm all from OTHERSIDE, because lots of people from other side very sympathetic on you and ready to help.

When all these things will going on, please don’t fall into the hands of Muslims, who only promote violence all over the world to spread their population. Let us be Indians, live together as one community and make a progress.

If any Nadar feels that you are from a great and superior community, come forward to help the poor HARIJANs to get their basics needs of food, shelter, cloths and equality, and prove you are a greatest civilized society. I strongly feel this is the responsibility of the entire Nadars. I would feel proud to say that I am a Nadar, when you help these poor people. You face worst enemy with the uncivilized thief DEVARs and feel they are wrong, you must be reasonable to provide humanitarian help to these poor (I mean all) HARIJANs. God blesses you Nadars with wealth and you must help whole-heartedly. If any Nadar read this, please don’t do any harm to HARIJANs. This is my humble request.


Raja Naadar.

Frederick Von Paulus said...

I strongly support the views of Raja Nadar.Superiority is not self proclaimed,it is something that received from others.
At this point of time,there is no relevance in stressing racial superiority,it is obsolete.
I proclaim that, Nadars should fight for the cause of downtrodden dalits as their fellowmen,for the Dravidian cause.
If anyone treats themselves superior,they don't forbidden the rights of others.

Murali said...

I am nadar, and i am shamed if anyone treat sc brothers badly. 100 year back nadars were treated very badly by other caste like nairs. We nadars shouldn't do same mistake. I have seen many comments blaming n adar i am able to understand your pain. If any of our nadar community people misbehaved please don't think all nadar people are like this.

Anonymous said...

Brother v are not ashamed to call our self nadar.. V r proud dat we are so hardwoking so we reached the position v r in :-)

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நன்றி !!!



Sendhil Nadar said...

Nadars rose to power in the society only by their dedication and hard work in life.we overcame all the humiliation
In the society.we never waited for others to help and we never boot licked others.everyone forgot the good works
Done by kamarajar to all.he didn't differenciated the caste in education,the true person for the right to
Education,nadars went to school for free education, but few went just to get free food & forget the importance of
Education.nadars went to colleges for higher education but few others kept on expecting egg in free food, free rice
Sarees lungis etc all.nadars planned for the future & never hesitated to work hard & train themselves with latest
Technologies and it started to continue generations forward, atlast nadars are on the high while free food seekers
Are still at the starting point.even after 60years of independance few are still at the starting point just eating
The central & state benifits just for daily food while nadars are on the they are left nowhere to go so
Just targeting others for cheap s4ex n money.they target not only nadars, but also the ancient rulers thevars
Nayakars etc...actually they with the attitude they have all these generations they cant come up in society even
After another 60years.when thevars & others like brahmins have their own legacy to follow, we nadars created our
Own legacy to follow & it will not stop in others jealousy.actually these few not just oppose nadars, they oppose
Thevars , goundars, nayakars mudaliyars, reddiyars chettiyars everyone...simple suggestion work ward for your self
It will surely enlighten your society...stop all these drama..

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